Topic: umm.... Kall?

What happened, did a tornado hit?

All the arcade scores have been reset (ok not too bad, I can get them back)
The points have gone.
The bank has gone.
Still no jackpots in the arcade.
Retro NZB style is nowhere to be seen.


I'm sure there's more but I'm in shock and can't think right now.

hehehehe *mutley laugh *goes to get Tetris Trophy... !

Darkling, I know that Kall was saying something about Gold Members not getting points for the Arcade anymore, but you'll have to wait for him to arise before clarifying this.

Hellooo!

Yes, the upgrade to 3.0.3 was done without transferring over points/bank data...I am looking at the tables now to see if it is possible.

Everyone has been given 2000 to start off again with.

And yes, the Arcade Free hack has been updated to stop people who don't have to pay for the games aren't eligible for the jackpots.

*demonstrates 'Coloured Text in Posts' thing that is now available to contributing members in the options part of their Profile*



...and Smileys in title.

Ouch.


That's all I can say.


Ouch.

I concluded that it wasn't overly fair to let people take prizes when they didn't have to pay for them..

Not a locked-in-stone policy, the option is always there to remove the Can Free Arcade permission, and just have it 'Doesn't have a Post per day requirement'...

Originally Posted by Sparklechick

Darkling, I know that Kall was saying something about Gold Members not getting points for the Arcade anymore, but you'll have to wait for him to arise before clarifying this.

That should read 'Contributing and Staff members', rather than just 'Gold Members' too, btw.

Originally Posted by admin

That should read 'Contributing and Staff members', rather than just 'Gold Members' too, btw.

So that should read "Anyone who pays for the privilege is ineligible"

A case of we've got your money now go take a running......

I think it's fair enough.

If people are finding they have a problem with it (1 so far) then perhaps contributing/paying members get 10,000 points or something along those lines just for joining up so that they have plenty of points to do whatever with.

What were you wanting to do with all your jackpot points anyway Darkling? Isn't it the trophy that's more important?

Originally Posted by Sparklechick

I think it's fair enough.

If people are finding they have a problem with it (1 so far) then perhaps contributing/paying members get 10,000 points or something along those lines just for joining up so that they have plenty of points to do whatever with.

What were you wanting to do with all your jackpot points anyway Darkling? Isn't it the trophy that's more important?

Seeing how I've given away far more points than I've spent, I don't know what exactly I'd do with them.

It's just the principle of the thing now.

I still don't see what problem you've got with it.

You still get the Trophy and your name up in lights you just don't get the points to go with it. Before we had a points system it was never a problem so why are you making it one now?

Originally Posted by admin

Not a locked-in-stone policy, the option is always there to remove the Can Free Arcade permission, and just have it 'Doesn't have a Post per day requirement'...

*points at that bit*

Actually.

The Arcade Pass is what enables the integration between the Points System and the Arcade...taking points off for playing games, but also giving people the chance to win them back if they get within a certain spread from the top.

New Arcade policy: Anyone will receive a portion of the Jackpot if you place in the top 5 places (with decreasing percentage as you get a lower place).

Most people will have to make a certain number of posts in order to use the Arcade, the exceptions being all contributing members, and a new Usergroup - Arcade Players. To gain access to this group, you may either purchase a subscription, or you may use the Shop menu option - Join Secondary Usergroup.

Normal Contributing members will not have the post requirement, will have to use points to play games, will receive Jackpots.

Arcade Players will not have the post requirement, not have to use points to play games, but will not receive Jackpots.

I think I am lost *confused look* but I wont worry about it. I will just go with the flow and see what I can/can't do... and sort it out from there.

If you look in the Store Menu, you will see a 'Join Secondary Usergroup' option.

If you buy this, you can choose to join a new Usergroup, called Arcade Players.

If you do this, you can play arcade games without having to post, or pay for games, but you won't get jackpots.

I didn't see anything wrong with how it first was *shrugs*

But I guess other people did *stares*

I'll just go with the flow too.

Well, effectively, the only change is that Contributors/Staff now have to use points to play the games...but they are eligible for jackpots.

That's how it originally was, I know this, because I came up with the code that makes it possible to remove the points cost for Usergroups.

If people want to play games without having to pay points, they can buy an Arcade pass and play free for 2 weeks (and still receive Jackpots), or save up enough points to buy membership in the Arcade Players group, who play free forever, but don't get Jackpots.

Alrighty then - The Official Reasoning behind this change:

With the prior system, it was possible for anyone who did not have to pay for games, yet was eligible for jackpots to choose a game that had a low high-score (such as roulette when no highscores have been set), and play it over and over and over and over and over and over again, each time being counted as a Jackpot winner to build up a massive amount of points.

Unfortunately, due to the limitations of the Arcade, it is unable to determine that one person who has scored the same score over 2000 times (by just starting and submitting) hasn't actually won....the concept of 'free arcade but winning points' is an exploit that was really quite unfair.

Hence the rule change.

Originally Posted by Sparklechick

But I guess other people did *stares*

*ducks from the death stare*

It's a shame when one person ruins it for all.

This is in reference to what Admin just wrote ....

...as an addendum:

Yes, we are aware that you could theoretically still do this exploiting by using the Arcade Pass, but would like to stress that it will be frowned upon...and may result in early expiration of your Arcade Pass/points penalties.

Originally Posted by kall

If you look in the Store Menu, you will see a 'Join Secondary Usergroup' option.

If you buy this, you can choose to join a new Usergroup, called Arcade Players.

If you do this, you can play arcade games without having to post, or pay for games, but you won't get jackpots.

When I go to the store, I dont see any option like that.
All I see is Bank, Richest Member, Most Sold and History.
But no matter what I click on, I get a message box that says 'No actions found' and it doesnt give me an option to do anything else. Am I doing something wrong?