[kall]

After reading a very interesting book, Gods of the New Millenium, I have found myself thinking on possible alternate theories to human existance.

Almost everyone knows of the 2 'main' theories, those being Creation (God did it, made Adam and Eve and somehow the human race desends from these two..unless you throw in Lilith the Mother of All Vampires as well) and Evolution (Apes decided it would be far more fun to run around on the ground than stay in the trees).

In my opinion, neither theory is totally feasible...but I would lean toward the Evolution one if there were no others.

One of the 'others' I have come across is the one where a race of Aliens travelling on a planetoid with a massively elliptical orbit (effectively a free starship)..or travelling by some other means, came by Earth every 5000 years or so, and harvested its mineral and other wealth as they did so.

Being superiorly advanced, they were able to engineer the planet's existing inhabitants as workers/slaves so they didn't have to do as much work.

The Adam/Eve myth can be explained in this theory too, where the 'Gods' took part of Adams DNA (the Hebrew word for Rib is the same as the word for Life...DNA could have been considered Life Essence) and used it to create Eve.

These early humans would be considered very primitive in our eyes, but had great longevity due to the Alien's engineering. This could explain the Christian stories of Noah being 600 years old at the time of his death and the other 'very old people' from the early Bible stories.

The workers created Temples for these 'Gods', and some still remain today in ancient sites such as Maachu Piccu and other Olmec (and later on, Incan) temples.

Much later on in the piece, perhaps 2 or 3 passes, the early Egyptian civilisation was happening along, still worshipping the 'Gods' in new forms. The 'Gods' came back and established bases in Thebes and some other places, with the pyramids acting in concert with the Nile (which was much bigger then, and flowed very near the base of the Pyramids at Giza) as a power source and providing a hub of operations and communication.

They carved great images of themselves, not only in stone statues, but also in the Salt Plains of Nazca. The Nazca Lines are massive, kilometers long in some cases, images of Birds, animals and objects, and in cases, extend perfectly straight over massive chasms in the desert floor. The inch-deep grooves are only visible from the air, and all 'recorded human history' shows that nobody should have been up in the air at that stage of our evolution.

The humans revolted at some point and overthrew the Gods, taking control of the air machines used to draw the lines, and graffitiied their own things over the ones drawn by the 'Gods'. These images seem very crude in comparison to the other far more detailed and straight lined images.

So anyway, that's a small part of what I am thinking could well be what happened.

What do you think?

[Penny]

I am not sure what to believe or not to believe or how we came to be... I am just glad we did.. in the most cases.

I do believe however (and I am a christian) that what is written in the bible, particuarly the Old testament should not be taken word for word as that is how it happened, they are stories that have been passed from generation to generation to try and explain how everything happened. Just like we have the Moari myths and legends here Maui slowing the sun etc.

[NiteFenix]

Another theory I heard recently is that Earth was once a Prison Colony for another alien race.

It would certainly explain our need for crime.

[Raine]

that is an interesting theory and i think they stole it to make the "alien vs predator" movie.

and anything is more plausible to me than "God" made adam then eve blah, blah, blah....

i kinda lean toward the evolution theory but don't completely rule alien involvement out.

[trogg]

Well it is entirely possible.

The Raelian 'religion' foundered by the Frenchman Rael has a similar theory where the supreme race (aliens to us) were banned from genetic experiments on their home planet after some accidents (think Frankenstein's monster escaping in a major city). Rael goes on to say (based on what the aliens told him) that the alien scientists set up seven laboratories on Earth (on each major continent) and had design competitions amongst themselves for their creations. After all, look at the essence (colour, design etc) of some flowers or animals and the design is far more 'advanced' than natural evolution would require it to be.
We have to remember that the Bible is a document that is over a thousand years old and although it is an interesting historic document they did not have the words to explain some of the things they witnessed. Imagine how Maori of 150 years ago would have described seeing something that we take for granted like a helicopter or electric oven, they just didn't have the words. Things like the Bible describing what Esikel saw (the angel with fire from it's hands and feet), what if that was one of those modern day rocket suits that NASA and the US Military have been developing, the Biblical observer / writer would have difficulty describing it using the language of the day.

Anyway, I will finish my rant before I go on for another half-hour with one thought.
Could there be a third option of experimentation (basically creation by a technologically advanced civilisation) followed by evolution with outside intervention (as some of the jumps in the standard evolution theory can not be explained)?

[kall]

Originally Posted by trogg

Could there be a third option of experimentation (basically creation by a technologically advanced civilisation) followed by evolution with outside intervention (as some of the jumps in the standard evolution theory can not be explained)?

Well, yes...

The aliens come, they do the major engineering to make the apes more like them, and intelligent enough to work their tools, and then leave for another 5000 years.

Before the next visit, the slaves have time to evolve, probably with acceleration due to the changes made by the Gods.

[trogg]

And the apes that were not assisted in their evolution continue to live on as Sasquatch, Forest Man, Yeti, Bigfoot, Yowie, Matdngdng etc