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no no i'm just reciting what the government is saying (we non-smokers/government)

I think smoking in public should be banned because i think its gross but JKob told me that my reasons werent good enough so we are not talking about my opinion i dont particulary care much for this government but i agree with them on this one. In new zealand when bullshit laws are passed we protest loudly like we always have done, on this issue there are no protests there no prime time debate, there is no campaigning there is only whinging.

seeing as their hasnt been an actual arguement for smoking other than telling me that i'm an asshole, which is fine there is no pro smoking arguement posted up here because there is no pro smoking arguement.

New zealand only wants to know about individual freedom when its in a context that suits them, but you are not just an individual you are part of a community that makes decisions together.

swimming alone at sea is not the kind of freedom that you actually want because it would mean that you would have to figure it out for yourselves.

If you could actually come up with a valid reason as to why you should be able to smoking in public then you might get somewhere, all thats been done so far is whinging. the i wrote the posts knowing that this is a senistive subject for many people, but even when provoke you still dont stand up for yourselves you just tell me that i'm an asshole. if thats all you've got then at least tell me why i'm an asshole we could debate that if you would prefer.

most pubs have provided smokers areas sheltered, outside with heating what is unreasonable about it, no one is telling you, you cant smoke. Its next to impossible for the government to stop someone from from whatever they want into their bodies.

lifes not fair, helens holding the country for ransom wah wah wah wah wah. Go live in a country that is actually living under a dictatorship for a bit and then come back and tell me how hard done by we all are.