no i'm not debating wether god exists or not. the debate was orignally about wether or not reigious moral should have anything to do with law making. My answer was no because of (previous posts).
You have every right to believe in your god, but you have not right to impose his supposed will on anyone else.
it seems you like to point out what people are doing because of the bible, but not actually look into it yourself to see that if what they are doing is according to the bible
people arent doing anything because to the bible people are doing what their leaders tell them, and their leaders are the ones who decide what god said. Countries with religion as foundation for their governments often go to war (namely america), countries that are at peace have laws that are decided by everyone regardless of race or religion or whatever in the society concerned. lets forget the basic thou shall not crap for a second.
Is homosexuality wrong? is smoking marijuana wrong? is being a transexual wrong? according to the church yes. But seeing as the church does not hold the the same values as the majority no. (yes christainity is a very new religion and its followers are still a minority). Of course it is wrong to kill but we decided that together as a society not because
"god said" and if he did exist and did say that then sure we would probally all agree. but once again that is not what i'm arguing
yes you have the right to believe whatever you want but understand, that is your faith to say it is fact would be completely untrue just like when you said
"god said". You are right when you implied i can't prove the contrary, but that doesn't make your statement anymore true.
as for not knowing anything about the subject, i was baptised in the st pauls church attended st pauls collegiate, attended chruch twice and week and participated in communion for 16 odd years, i was forced to take to religious studies all through high school and i've read the bible more times than i care to remember. At the age of 16 the laws of man stated that i was now free to decide these things for myself, so instead of blindly following i decided to leave and find out about the world for myself. I think i know plenty about the church and how it works thanks. My christian upbringing is exactly what made me reject it. Also i currently have 4 years of tertiary education (with 2 more to go), to say that i know plenty about the subject (thats not saying that i know everything about the subject i'm always learning more).
I Choose to obstain from any religious belief systems as i my studies revolve heavily around religious and political issue and i would not be able to hold an objective point of view if i signed on to any religious beliefs.
just from that scripture above I will now use the your so called word LOGIC no you wont you cant apply logic to something you cant prove thats just complete ignorance. also you said you were going to apply Logic to
"that scripture", but you dont instead you go off another tangent. I dont think we're at a stalemate at all as that last post barely made sense.
of course this is a forum so you can always post again and reiterate
