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Originally Posted by NNY  theres a crazy mexican ex junkie with a riduclously large following in California who cliams to be the rencarnation of christ.
I dont think i'm getting through to you at this point.
GOD did not give moses ten commandments he simply told a bunch of people that without any proof. they chose to believe him that is FAITH not FACT. It cannot be proven it is just written you cant prove it because you weren't there.
on the instruction manual of my new oven it tells me that i'll get a burn hand if i touch the element while its turned on, this is FACT i can prove it by putting my hand on the element while its turned on and get burnt. Infact you can prove this with your oven and your hand. we have now established that FACTS can be proven using LOGIC.
you keep saying "god said this god said that" god didnt say anything, moses said that god said. keeping this in mind re read my last post.This is the simplest way i can think to put my point across If you cant grasp this concept i'm afraid this conversation is just going to start going around in circles. |
And I don't think the point I'm making is getting through to you and what concept are we trying to grasp? you making me believe there is no God or me making you believe there is?.
And yet if those people following that mexican junkie or what ever he is I don't know read the scripture where jesus said “Then if anyone says to YOU, ‘Look! Here is the Christ,’ or, ‘There!’ do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will give great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones. Look! I have forewarned YOU. Therefore, if people say to YOU, ‘Look! He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; ‘Look! He is in the inner chambers,’ do not believe it.
Plain and simple ain't it, it seems you like to point out what people are doing because of the bible, but not actually look into it yourself to see that if what they are doing is according to the bible, in other words fighting a war without a sword or no knowledge of the SUBJECT! or WHAT! or WHY! these things occur. Take your pick man there are more stories on the internet about people doing things in the name of God or Religion, thats the circle your stuck in. Forever pointing out what people do in the name of God or Religion but don't want to take that one more step to understand if what they are doing is really in the name of God or Religion and or biblical teachings at all. Now just from that scripture above I will now use the your so called word LOGIC and apply it here and know that in no way in hades is that mexican christ.
But I don't mind it going around in circles cos we never gonna see eye to eye anyway, the most common reason I figure why people don't want to believe there is a God is because of the laws laid down by him contradicts the life style they lead in other words a person does not like being told that the things they are doing is wrong, yet the funny thing is deep down even that person knows it is, without even God telling them that it is, hence the whole reason why this discussion board was posted, we are here because of knowing what chris done was wrong I emphasize "KNOWING" right from wrong m8 I said it b4, we did not need God to tell us what chris did was wrong. It is built in us knowing right from wrong, yet like I said in a previous post as well, people like doing the things they do, they get a kick out of it, satisfying their sexual appetite is more appealing to them than devotion to God and understand this, you say it can't be proven that God gave moses the laws, because of me not being there? and if I was there would I be here today??...lol, I'll be like what 4000 years old...lol. So also you can't prove that God didn't because you weren't there.
Stalemate.